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SuperFuzz · Aug 10, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Correction on my last post. Bravery and starting a fight aren't good ideas when you are a level 12 mesmer. Got my little mesmer up to lvl 20 and she's a BA now!

That said, I still feel like I'm behind the curve. I've been going up against lvl 20 mesmer's now on the mainland, and they have nuker spells, at least that's what I'm calling them. I haven't been able to see what spell they are using since it's always been in the middle of a battle and I'm trying to stay alive, but they are using something that is knocking my entire party on it's butt. I found the ultimate skill vendor on the mainland with about every memer skill on the planet, and read through the descriptions but I didn't see any that fit that bill. Am I going to have to capture that skill from a downed lvl 20 mesmer or something?

Quinn · Aug 11, 2006, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Are you sure it's the mesmer monsters doing the damage and knocking you down? It sounds like e.g. an elementalist's Dragon's Stomp or something.

If you get far enough in the game, there will be skill vendors that sell all regular mesmer skills, but if it's an elite skill you're after, then you can only capture it from a dead boss of your profession (primary or secondary profession).

Smasher/Devourer · Aug 11, 2006, 08:06 AM // 08:06

SuperFuzz: I'm pretty sure Quinn is right about this one. The mesmer skill set doesn't include anything that will produce the effect you described.

taffette · Aug 11, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50

Take backfire - one of my faves (although it may be called something different in Factions) - sounds like you're heading down the Domination route anyway

then cast that on these pesky mesmers before they hit you with anything. The stupid ones won't notice and kill themselves, the clever ones won't be able to cast for however many seconds.
Also, if this spell is knocking your entire party down, spread out - area of effect spells are only effective when played against bunched groups.

Hope you stick with it, I love my mesmer although it took me months to figure out how to play her properly

SuperFuzz · Aug 12, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

It very well could be an elementalist doing it I suppose. I just assumed it was the mesmers, because I've been going up against elementalists all through the game, and I never ran into this type of attack until there was a mesmer in the group. That said, there were also elementalists in the group. so maybe it's just that they are a higher skilled group than what I was going against previously.

As for skill direction, I started out heavy on domination and am using a customized domination staff, but have moved towards illusion lately. The skill set I've been using to great success recently includes Empathy, Images of remorse and Conjure phantasm and several others. I've been starting with conjure phantasm, then hitting them immediately with remorse and then empathy, and that is drawing them down very quickly. If they have a healer, I target the healer first, then go after the others. I also have backfire in there, and have been using backfire on the necromancers and elementalists pretty well, but haven't had much success with that one on monks and mesmers. I topped it off with bane signet, clumsiness, cry of frustration and resurrection.

I haven't had much success with cry of frustration though, and had a question on it. The description says that it knocks 30 health of all baddies in the area where the spell was cast. Does that mean all of them in the area of the targeted enemy when I cast the spell, or any baddies standing next to me when I cast the spell?

luxor9 · Aug 12, 2006, 02:19 AM // 02:19

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Originally Posted by SuperFuzz

I haven't had much success with cry of frustration though, and had a question on it. The description says that it knocks 30 health of all baddies in the area where the spell was cast. Does that mean all of them in the area of the targeted enemy when I cast the spell, or any baddies standing next to me when I cast the spell?

cry of frustration interupts any skill. If it works that foe and any foes near him will take damage. So it hit's enemies surrounding him not you. ; ]

SuperFuzz · Aug 16, 2006, 06:51 PM // 18:51

Okay, got another question here. I've finished off lvl 20 points accumulation twice, but it doesn't cycle to lvl 21 and doesn't give me any more attribute points to plug in. Okay, easy enough. lvl 20 is as high as you can go obviously. But what is the point in continued xp accumulation if it doesn't do anything for you? Is there any benefit or inscentive to take all these side quests now aside from the money?

Francis Demeules · Aug 16, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56

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Originally Posted by SuperFuzz

Okay, got another question here. I've finished off lvl 20 points accumulation twice, but it doesn't cycle to lvl 21 and doesn't give me any more attribute points to plug in. Okay, easy enough. lvl 20 is as high as you can go obviously. But what is the point in continued xp accumulation if it doesn't do anything for you? Is there any benefit or inscentive to take all these side quests now aside from the money?

Gaining Skill point to buy skills and Capture Signet to cap elite skills

Canadian Bacon · Aug 16, 2006, 07:31 PM // 19:31

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Originally Posted by Francis Demeules

Gaining Skill point to buy skills and Capture Signet to cap elite skills

Ya, every time you buy a skill from the Skills NPC it costs you 1 Skill Point. You gain a skill point each time you level, even after 20, so that you can always buy skills and capture signets as Francis mentioned.

Francis Demeules · Aug 16, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02

Yep and remember each time you buy a skill or Signet of Capture, the cost increase. The max a skill costs is 1k. So at the end, each skill will cost 1 platinum each

SuperFuzz · Aug 16, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20

That is good to know! I thought I was using up 1 attribute point to buy skills, so I haven't been buying any! So I should have theoretically 22 skill points to spend since I've leveled twice since lvl 20? Also, where can you purchase the capture signets? From the skill vendor or somewhere else?

Any tips on good me/mo skills to capture from bosses? I captured Ray of Judgement from a mutated Monk boss, and it deals 70 damage (with 10 smiting prayers and a 10-19 domination staff) to the entire enemy party, however it disables all of my spells for 10 seconds after I cast it. Are there any more deadly elites for me/mo and or any that don't have that 10 second casting penalty?

Aug 10, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54	#61
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	Correction on my last post. Bravery and starting a fight aren't good ideas when you are a level 12 mesmer. Got my little mesmer up to lvl 20 and she's a BA now! That said, I still feel like I'm behind the curve. I've been going up against lvl 20 mesmer's now on the mainland, and they have nuker spells, at least that's what I'm calling them. I haven't been able to see what spell they are using since it's always been in the middle of a battle and I'm trying to stay alive, but they are using something that is knocking my entire party on it's butt. I found the ultimate skill vendor on the mainland with about every memer skill on the planet, and read through the descriptions but I didn't see any that fit that bill. Am I going to have to capture that skill from a downed lvl 20 mesmer or something?

Aug 11, 2006, 07:57 AM // 07:57	#62
Quinn Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2005 Guild: [Away] Profession: Me/R	Are you sure it's the mesmer monsters doing the damage and knocking you down? It sounds like e.g. an elementalist's Dragon's Stomp or something. If you get far enough in the game, there will be skill vendors that sell all regular mesmer skills, but if it's an elite skill you're after, then you can only capture it from a dead boss of your profession (primary or secondary profession).

Aug 11, 2006, 08:06 AM // 08:06	#63
Smasher/Devourer Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Omaha, NE, USA	SuperFuzz: I'm pretty sure Quinn is right about this one. The mesmer skill set doesn't include anything that will produce the effect you described.

Aug 11, 2006, 09:50 AM // 09:50	#64
taffette Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sunny ol' Manchester Guild: The Trumpet Blowers Profession: R/	Take backfire - one of my faves (although it may be called something different in Factions) - sounds like you're heading down the Domination route anyway then cast that on these pesky mesmers before they hit you with anything. The stupid ones won't notice and kill themselves, the clever ones won't be able to cast for however many seconds. Also, if this spell is knocking your entire party down, spread out - area of effect spells are only effective when played against bunched groups. Hope you stick with it, I love my mesmer although it took me months to figure out how to play her properly

Aug 12, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06	#65
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	It very well could be an elementalist doing it I suppose. I just assumed it was the mesmers, because I've been going up against elementalists all through the game, and I never ran into this type of attack until there was a mesmer in the group. That said, there were also elementalists in the group. so maybe it's just that they are a higher skilled group than what I was going against previously. As for skill direction, I started out heavy on domination and am using a customized domination staff, but have moved towards illusion lately. The skill set I've been using to great success recently includes Empathy, Images of remorse and Conjure phantasm and several others. I've been starting with conjure phantasm, then hitting them immediately with remorse and then empathy, and that is drawing them down very quickly. If they have a healer, I target the healer first, then go after the others. I also have backfire in there, and have been using backfire on the necromancers and elementalists pretty well, but haven't had much success with that one on monks and mesmers. I topped it off with bane signet, clumsiness, cry of frustration and resurrection. I haven't had much success with cry of frustration though, and had a question on it. The description says that it knocks 30 health of all baddies in the area where the spell was cast. Does that mean all of them in the area of the targeted enemy when I cast the spell, or any baddies standing next to me when I cast the spell?

Aug 16, 2006, 06:51 PM // 18:51	#67
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	Okay, got another question here. I've finished off lvl 20 points accumulation twice, but it doesn't cycle to lvl 21 and doesn't give me any more attribute points to plug in. Okay, easy enough. lvl 20 is as high as you can go obviously. But what is the point in continued xp accumulation if it doesn't do anything for you? Is there any benefit or inscentive to take all these side quests now aside from the money?

Aug 16, 2006, 08:02 PM // 20:02	#70
Francis Demeules Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada, Qc Guild: [Holy] Profession: Me/Mo	Yep and remember each time you buy a skill or Signet of Capture, the cost increase. The max a skill costs is 1k. So at the end, each skill will cost 1 platinum each

Aug 16, 2006, 08:20 PM // 20:20	#71
SuperFuzz Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Idaho Profession: W/Mo	That is good to know! I thought I was using up 1 attribute point to buy skills, so I haven't been buying any! So I should have theoretically 22 skill points to spend since I've leveled twice since lvl 20? Also, where can you purchase the capture signets? From the skill vendor or somewhere else? Any tips on good me/mo skills to capture from bosses? I captured Ray of Judgement from a mutated Monk boss, and it deals 70 damage (with 10 smiting prayers and a 10-19 domination staff) to the entire enemy party, however it disables all of my spells for 10 seconds after I cast it. Are there any more deadly elites for me/mo and or any that don't have that 10 second casting penalty?